1 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:03,449 well good afternoon everybody and 2 00:00:08,610 --> 00:00:05,710 welcome to NASA's Johnson Space Center 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:08,620 we are here today for our combined 4 00:00:13,380 --> 00:00:10,570 mission status briefing in our post 5 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:13,390 mission management team briefing joining 6 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:15,400 us today is Bryan Lenny he is Space 7 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:17,289 Shuttle Discovery's lead flight director 8 00:00:22,620 --> 00:00:20,529 throughout the mission of the orbiter to 9 00:00:25,229 --> 00:00:22,630 the International Space Station and also 10 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:25,239 joining us is Leroy Cain he's the deputy 11 00:00:29,550 --> 00:00:27,369 manager of the space shuttle program and 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:29,560 he's also the chair of the mission 13 00:00:32,970 --> 00:00:31,810 management team as well we'll hear from 14 00:00:35,069 --> 00:00:32,980 both gentlemen and then we'll take 15 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:35,079 questions here at an end at other NASA 16 00:00:38,759 --> 00:00:37,449 centers and with that I'll turn it over 17 00:00:40,650 --> 00:00:38,769 to Bryan ok 18 00:00:42,419 --> 00:00:40,660 Thank You Carl I'll just start off with 19 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:42,429 a quick summary of some of the things 20 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:43,960 that went on today on orbit and how the 21 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:46,210 crew is doing the crew woke up just 22 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:47,170 before 6 o'clock 23 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:49,570 Houston time and they were doing a great 24 00:00:52,979 --> 00:00:52,030 job up there listening to them they 25 00:00:54,959 --> 00:00:52,989 sound like they're having a really good 26 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:54,969 time as well things are perked along 27 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:57,100 just as we would all hope from an 28 00:01:01,739 --> 00:00:59,440 activity standpoint this morning we went 29 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:01,749 performed our second phasing rendezvous 30 00:01:06,270 --> 00:01:03,730 phasing burned and that was about a 10 31 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:06,280 foot per second right ohms burned that 32 00:01:09,450 --> 00:01:07,540 is just setting us up for a rendezvous 33 00:01:11,610 --> 00:01:09,460 tomorrow tonight we'll do one more of 34 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:11,620 those rendezvous phasing burns that 35 00:01:16,050 --> 00:01:13,000 one's a little bit smaller at about 6 36 00:01:17,790 --> 00:01:16,060 feet per second currently we're phasing 37 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:17,800 in on the International Space Station 38 00:01:22,350 --> 00:01:20,050 we're about 7600 nautical miles behind 39 00:01:25,950 --> 00:01:22,360 the ISS and of course we'll get there 40 00:01:27,810 --> 00:01:25,960 tomorrow for today Steve Lindsay eric 41 00:01:29,550 --> 00:01:27,820 boe and al jarreau they perform the 42 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:29,560 flight day 2 inspection they've 43 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:31,660 completed so far the starboard and the 44 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:33,280 nose cap surveys and we're working on 45 00:01:37,470 --> 00:01:34,840 the port survey when I came over here 46 00:01:39,210 --> 00:01:37,480 all is going really well the systems are 47 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:39,220 pretty Haven just well just fine with 48 00:01:42,690 --> 00:01:40,930 that and we expect to get that all 49 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:42,700 wrapped up shortly and get the orbiter 50 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:45,850 boom sensor system put away for tonight 51 00:01:50,970 --> 00:01:48,090 and all ready for docking tomorrow 52 00:01:52,350 --> 00:01:50,980 during this time period the other folks 53 00:01:55,530 --> 00:01:52,360 steve bowen mike barratt and nicole 54 00:01:57,570 --> 00:01:55,540 stott they continue you can to configure 55 00:01:59,970 --> 00:01:57,580 discovery for orbit ops by setting up 56 00:02:01,650 --> 00:01:59,980 the odometer little bicycle that they 57 00:02:04,410 --> 00:02:01,660 used for exercise they activated the 58 00:02:05,970 --> 00:02:04,420 National Laboratory program samples they 59 00:02:08,369 --> 00:02:05,980 were taking some orbit photos and some 60 00:02:11,010 --> 00:02:08,379 surveys for us with photos and they're 61 00:02:12,810 --> 00:02:11,020 checking out their spacesuits for their 62 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:12,820 spacewalks on flight days five in flight 63 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:13,910 day seven 64 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:15,470 later today they'll continue with those 65 00:02:19,090 --> 00:02:17,270 preps by installing the centreline 66 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:19,100 camera which is of course the camera we 67 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:21,770 use to when we rendezvous to align the 68 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:23,810 the discovery with the International 69 00:02:27,370 --> 00:02:25,610 Space Station and they're checking out 70 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:27,380 the round of Atul's and docking systems 71 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:28,490 and configuring the airlock for 72 00:02:32,230 --> 00:02:30,890 tomorrow's docking all in all those 73 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:32,240 activities everything's going really 74 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:34,190 well on board the plan is in good shape 75 00:02:39,010 --> 00:02:36,640 and the crews executing it quite well 76 00:02:40,750 --> 00:02:39,020 discovery it's from a system standpoint 77 00:02:43,390 --> 00:02:40,760 is doing fantastic the vehicles in great 78 00:02:45,460 --> 00:02:43,400 shape I don't even have any notable 79 00:02:47,710 --> 00:02:45,470 anomalies to talk to you about so 80 00:02:50,650 --> 00:02:47,720 everything's going well there and we're 81 00:02:54,940 --> 00:02:50,660 ready for our rendezvous tomorrow so 82 00:02:58,060 --> 00:02:54,950 that's all I got okay great thank you 83 00:03:01,000 --> 00:02:58,070 well good afternoon it is it's great to 84 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:01,010 be here with you today it's it's always 85 00:03:07,950 --> 00:03:03,710 really good to be back on orbit I think 86 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:07,960 in this case it's it's especially 87 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:11,120 especially prideful for us I think a 88 00:03:14,740 --> 00:03:12,410 couple of reasons for that 89 00:03:16,660 --> 00:03:14,750 not the least of which is no doubt that 90 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:16,670 this is a big milestone for discovery 91 00:03:21,490 --> 00:03:19,280 and and for the shuttle team as a whole 92 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:21,500 and so it's great to see her back in 93 00:03:27,580 --> 00:03:25,190 orbit and performing the way she is also 94 00:03:30,790 --> 00:03:27,590 I think because and I know you've been 95 00:03:33,130 --> 00:03:30,800 briefed quite a bit before launch on on 96 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:33,140 all the work that took place with the 97 00:03:39,610 --> 00:03:37,030 external tank and and the various 98 00:03:42,190 --> 00:03:39,620 challenge that challenges that we had as 99 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:42,200 a program going back to late October and 100 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:46,760 early November I I know some of those 101 00:03:50,820 --> 00:03:48,350 briefings went into some great detail on 102 00:03:53,590 --> 00:03:50,830 on the work that the team performed and 103 00:03:56,979 --> 00:03:53,600 and what was necessary to get us back to 104 00:03:59,170 --> 00:03:56,989 a flying condition again I don't think 105 00:04:03,190 --> 00:03:59,180 in those forums or in this one I can 106 00:04:04,690 --> 00:04:03,200 really do justice in terms of in terms 107 00:04:08,110 --> 00:04:04,700 of what I want to say about the team's 108 00:04:10,030 --> 00:04:08,120 effort in that regard as a as a shuttle 109 00:04:12,610 --> 00:04:10,040 program management team I can tell you 110 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:12,620 that we couldn't be more proud of what 111 00:04:19,539 --> 00:04:16,720 the team was was able to accomplish the 112 00:04:21,849 --> 00:04:19,549 dedication that the team showed to it to 113 00:04:25,090 --> 00:04:21,859 a person across the country across the 114 00:04:27,190 --> 00:04:25,100 various centers the the sheer 115 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:27,200 perseverance of 116 00:04:33,820 --> 00:04:31,010 of the team members and in their 117 00:04:35,710 --> 00:04:33,830 commitment to excellence we've seen this 118 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:35,720 kind of thing as we've tackled other 119 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:38,770 problems going through the program and 120 00:04:45,550 --> 00:04:42,560 in this case I think it was was it was 121 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:45,560 extra special because we had some other 122 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:46,970 challenges that we haven't faced before 123 00:04:55,810 --> 00:04:51,110 in the program and to include a smaller 124 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:55,820 workforce and and some pressures on 125 00:04:59,500 --> 00:04:57,770 folks both in their personal and 126 00:05:03,160 --> 00:04:59,510 professional life that we probably 127 00:05:06,690 --> 00:05:03,170 didn't face before but these folks 128 00:05:10,990 --> 00:05:06,700 it was amazing to watch them work and 129 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:11,000 it's a no doubt another reason as I said 130 00:05:14,710 --> 00:05:13,010 why it's extra special for us to be in 131 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,720 orbit again with discovery so I can't 132 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:16,400 say enough about the team performance it 133 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:22,240 was just exemplary overall and it really 134 00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:25,250 it's hard to describe and really hard as 135 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:27,590 I said in a forum like this to really 136 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:29,690 give you a full appreciation of what it 137 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:32,690 means to us and what it really took to 138 00:05:37,330 --> 00:05:34,550 get to the point where we could light 139 00:05:38,590 --> 00:05:37,340 the solids and and have their liftoff in 140 00:05:41,620 --> 00:05:38,600 the launch of discovery that we had 141 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:41,630 yesterday so just a great day to be part 142 00:05:46,060 --> 00:05:44,330 of the space program a great day to be 143 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:46,070 part of this team so I'm extremely proud 144 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:49,670 of the team the the launch and the 145 00:05:55,780 --> 00:05:51,890 ascent went extremely well it was 146 00:05:59,170 --> 00:05:55,790 beautiful launch and et 137 the external 147 00:06:01,900 --> 00:05:59,180 tank had excellent performance again a 148 00:06:05,050 --> 00:06:01,910 testament to the team's work the past 149 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:05,060 several months in particular as Brian 150 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:06,710 mentioned Discovery's performance on 151 00:06:13,150 --> 00:06:08,750 orbit has been outstanding we had very 152 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:13,160 very few minor kinds of systems items to 153 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:16,550 even talk about and nothing of 154 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:19,670 significance we're looking forward to 155 00:06:25,690 --> 00:06:21,170 the rendezvous and the and the docking 156 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:25,700 tomorrow we have a very full and an 157 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:28,880 exciting mission with the with the space 158 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:31,850 station and the team is ready to go at 159 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:33,710 the MMT today we really didn't have a 160 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:36,800 whole lot to talk about we did review 161 00:06:43,190 --> 00:06:40,230 some very preliminary 162 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:43,200 images from a cent we have and I think 163 00:06:48,530 --> 00:06:45,360 we have a couple of images with us today 164 00:06:51,530 --> 00:06:48,540 Kyle and we can show one that you don't 165 00:06:56,090 --> 00:06:51,540 doubt have heard about this is I believe 166 00:06:59,810 --> 00:06:56,100 it was a 231 second event we had a piece 167 00:07:04,610 --> 00:06:59,820 of foam that liberated from the external 168 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:04,620 tank this area here is is on the lower 169 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:07,470 part of the inner tank area it's it's 170 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:10,710 actually the majority of this debris 171 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:15,120 liberation is just a little bit above 172 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:17,610 the lh2 flange area that you heard us 173 00:07:23,090 --> 00:07:19,560 talk quite a bit about in the last 174 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:23,100 several months the the foam liberated at 175 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:25,440 a time when it's it's relatively late 176 00:07:31,490 --> 00:07:27,780 and the profile it's certainly well past 177 00:07:33,950 --> 00:07:31,500 our time of concern for foam liberation 178 00:07:35,090 --> 00:07:33,960 nevertheless this piece liberated and 179 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:35,100 then I think we have another slide that 180 00:07:39,230 --> 00:07:37,530 shows sort of the trajectory of the 181 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:39,240 piece if you if you get your bearings in 182 00:07:44,270 --> 00:07:42,570 this in this photo here the lower left 183 00:07:47,660 --> 00:07:44,280 corner of the picture is the is the 184 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:47,670 actual feed line on the tank and and 185 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:50,430 then the yellow line and the red lines 186 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:53,970 are intended to indicate the trajectory 187 00:08:03,080 --> 00:07:58,370 of the foam piece it took sort of a 188 00:08:06,830 --> 00:08:03,090 random path where it initially floated 189 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:06,840 up looks like it may have touched the 190 00:08:10,970 --> 00:08:09,510 underside of the orbiter there in the in 191 00:08:13,340 --> 00:08:10,980 the bipod attached region maybe 192 00:08:17,020 --> 00:08:13,350 somewhere around the arrowhead region 193 00:08:20,380 --> 00:08:17,030 and then it from there it went and and 194 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:20,390 traveled back along the stack and 195 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:22,890 doesn't appear to have impacted any 196 00:08:26,570 --> 00:08:24,930 other part of the orbiter or the or the 197 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:26,580 shuttle system as it made its way into 198 00:08:34,339 --> 00:08:30,630 the plume so that was that was an item 199 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:34,349 of interest during a sent this I'll 200 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:38,640 remind you this is in an area where we 201 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:40,830 know we have susceptibility to what we 202 00:08:46,220 --> 00:08:44,640 call crop pumping where that part of it 203 00:08:48,980 --> 00:08:46,230 that's at the very top of the liquid 204 00:08:51,290 --> 00:08:48,990 hydrogen tank and so when we get to this 205 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:51,300 three or four minute time period an 206 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:52,649 asset that part of the tank is 207 00:08:58,939 --> 00:08:55,470 getting relatively warm compared to what 208 00:09:01,699 --> 00:08:58,949 it had been and so we get this cryo 209 00:09:04,340 --> 00:09:01,709 pumping and from a physics standpoint 210 00:09:06,199 --> 00:09:04,350 and in a post-flight historical and a 211 00:09:08,449 --> 00:09:06,209 test standpoint going back to return to 212 00:09:10,549 --> 00:09:08,459 flight we know we can lose foam as a 213 00:09:13,669 --> 00:09:10,559 result of this crowd pumping phenomenon 214 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:13,679 so that was we believe preliminarily 215 00:09:21,230 --> 00:09:16,649 that was the cause of this foam loss and 216 00:09:23,569 --> 00:09:21,240 so not not totally unexpected this is 217 00:09:27,549 --> 00:09:23,579 this is a portion an area of the tank 218 00:09:29,780 --> 00:09:27,559 that we're very attuned to in terms of 219 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:29,790 the potential for this kind of debris 220 00:09:33,819 --> 00:09:31,290 loss so we don't have any concerns about 221 00:09:36,259 --> 00:09:33,829 this event obviously we'll do our normal 222 00:09:39,769 --> 00:09:36,269 vehicle inspections and in fact they are 223 00:09:41,090 --> 00:09:39,779 ongoing today and tomorrow as we 224 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:41,100 approach the space station and we'll do 225 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:43,290 all of our normal inspection work to 226 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:44,730 make sure that the vehicle is okay but 227 00:09:49,489 --> 00:09:47,040 that was one foam event that I thought 228 00:09:52,309 --> 00:09:49,499 we would show you today there were a 229 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:52,319 couple of other events during s and they 230 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:55,110 were as well outside of the area of 231 00:10:02,840 --> 00:09:59,519 aerodynamic sensitive transport time and 232 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:02,850 so we didn't we didn't see anything of 233 00:10:07,790 --> 00:10:05,160 concern in terms of debris loss from the 234 00:10:09,439 --> 00:10:07,800 tank and as I mentioned earlier overall 235 00:10:12,290 --> 00:10:09,449 the the performance of this tank 236 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:12,300 external tank number 137 was was really 237 00:10:18,079 --> 00:10:15,529 exceptional so from a preliminary 238 00:10:19,730 --> 00:10:18,089 standpoint things look really good for 239 00:10:21,669 --> 00:10:19,740 for all of the Space Shuttle elements 240 00:10:24,319 --> 00:10:21,679 and certainly discovery is performing 241 00:10:28,429 --> 00:10:24,329 very very well on orbit and and the crew 242 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:28,439 as well on their way to to getting into 243 00:10:31,309 --> 00:10:30,089 the mission in earnest and and so we 244 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:31,319 look forward to running and docking 245 00:10:36,889 --> 00:10:35,490 tomorrow and in the the crew and the 246 00:10:40,369 --> 00:10:36,899 ground and the teams on the ground are 247 00:10:42,829 --> 00:10:40,379 ready to go so that's all I have them be 248 00:10:44,569 --> 00:10:42,839 happy to take your questions okay thanks 249 00:10:46,369 --> 00:10:44,579 gentlemen we'll start here of course and 250 00:10:48,859 --> 00:10:46,379 then check with the other NASA centers 251 00:10:50,239 --> 00:10:48,869 and out on the phone bridge please give 252 00:10:52,220 --> 00:10:50,249 your name and affiliation for those 253 00:10:54,499 --> 00:10:52,230 following along with the briefing 254 00:10:57,199 --> 00:10:54,509 Jeremiah we'll start with mark hey 255 00:11:00,710 --> 00:10:57,209 thanks mark for Aviation Week and I 256 00:11:04,489 --> 00:11:00,720 think this is for Leroy but on the lh2 257 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:04,499 flange foam loss and debris trajectory 258 00:11:10,929 --> 00:11:06,929 you talked about is that something you 259 00:11:13,309 --> 00:11:10,939 would see in the photography during the 260 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:13,319 backflip tomorrow 261 00:11:18,439 --> 00:11:15,569 or is that something you have to catch 262 00:11:23,179 --> 00:11:18,449 another another way in terms of whether 263 00:11:24,979 --> 00:11:23,189 there was impact damage certainly we we 264 00:11:26,869 --> 00:11:24,989 would fully expect to see any kind of 265 00:11:28,489 --> 00:11:26,879 damage in that in that area that I 266 00:11:33,289 --> 00:11:28,499 showed you in the photo there that one 267 00:11:34,849 --> 00:11:33,299 still shot the closest the area of what 268 00:11:36,889 --> 00:11:34,859 I would call closest approach if it did 269 00:11:37,939 --> 00:11:36,899 in fact touch the the bottom of the 270 00:11:39,619 --> 00:11:37,949 orbiter would have been in that 271 00:11:42,189 --> 00:11:39,629 Arrowhead region where the bipod 272 00:11:45,079 --> 00:11:42,199 attaches to the underside of the orbiter 273 00:11:49,339 --> 00:11:45,089 up in the landing gear the forward 274 00:11:52,609 --> 00:11:49,349 landing gear door area so we we expect 275 00:11:56,209 --> 00:11:52,619 as we have in the past we would get very 276 00:11:58,909 --> 00:11:56,219 good imagery of that entire area during 277 00:12:07,639 --> 00:11:58,919 the the RPM and over tomorrow during the 278 00:12:12,220 --> 00:12:10,040 Philips lost with NASA space flight calm 279 00:12:17,660 --> 00:12:12,230 for Leroy could you just provide a 280 00:12:20,210 --> 00:12:17,670 status on the SRB recovery SRB recovery 281 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:20,220 is on track as the same schedule as it 282 00:12:23,179 --> 00:12:21,600 was before we launched so I think 283 00:12:26,030 --> 00:12:23,189 tomorrow we'll get a preliminary 284 00:12:27,499 --> 00:12:26,040 briefing and they'll give us a good 285 00:12:30,949 --> 00:12:27,509 indication and when we expect to have 286 00:12:33,319 --> 00:12:30,959 the the boosters in tow and in in in the 287 00:12:35,980 --> 00:12:33,329 port in fact so I'm looking to the 288 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:35,990 Sunday Monday timeframe thank you 289 00:12:42,699 --> 00:12:40,740 anything else Gina oh grab Eric while 290 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:42,709 you're there 291 00:12:49,549 --> 00:12:45,809 Eric burger with Houston Chronicle 292 00:12:53,239 --> 00:12:49,559 Leroy if you could kind of go over the 293 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:53,249 status the last two tanks for 134 and 294 00:12:58,730 --> 00:12:56,670 135 talk about their disposition are 295 00:13:02,780 --> 00:12:58,740 they going to be fixed the same way 296 00:13:04,009 --> 00:13:02,790 et 137 was and does that give you a sort 297 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:04,019 of more confidence in these last two 298 00:13:09,619 --> 00:13:05,519 tanks considering their performance of 299 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:09,629 this tank yeah we've essentially settled 300 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:12,540 on a path that puts all of the tank and 301 00:13:20,169 --> 00:13:14,970 essentially in the same configuration as 302 00:13:22,999 --> 00:13:20,179 as what we flew here on et 137 so ET 122 303 00:13:25,189 --> 00:13:23,009 the tank that we have hanging in the in 304 00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:25,199 the in the integration cell right now 305 00:13:30,019 --> 00:13:27,600 getting ready to mate and ever is the 306 00:13:35,059 --> 00:13:30,029 tank that will fly on STS 134 the April 307 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:35,069 mission and and we made a decision a few 308 00:13:41,329 --> 00:13:39,360 weeks ago that the the best approach for 309 00:13:43,730 --> 00:13:41,339 us would be to go with a configuration 310 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:43,740 that we know which is to put the radius 311 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:48,170 blocks on the LT flange area on 80 122 312 00:13:55,850 --> 00:13:51,839 and we anticipate we'll do the same 313 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:55,860 thing for et 138 so we will essentially 314 00:13:59,449 --> 00:13:57,689 plan to fly the last three tanks to 315 00:14:02,720 --> 00:13:59,459 include the one we just launched in flew 316 00:14:07,309 --> 00:14:02,730 yesterday 80 137 in the same 317 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:07,319 configuration it's one that that prior 318 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:11,490 to this flight we you know is the best 319 00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:15,569 data that we have relative to the the 320 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:17,519 lion's share of the test and analysis 321 00:14:20,430 --> 00:14:19,470 that we've done and we have a high 322 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,440 degree of confidence 323 00:14:24,869 --> 00:14:22,480 in the modification that we've done and 324 00:14:27,210 --> 00:14:24,879 certainly it performed exceptionally on 325 00:14:30,379 --> 00:14:27,220 on the tank we just flew launched and 326 00:14:33,689 --> 00:14:30,389 flew yesterday so that's our plan 327 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:33,699 Junius in Serie ABC News for Brian what 328 00:14:38,759 --> 00:14:36,970 is the fly around the Soyuz fly around a 329 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:38,769 done deal yet if so when would that 330 00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:43,810 happen sure the discussion for the Soyuz 331 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,089 fly around is something we looked at 332 00:14:50,030 --> 00:14:47,680 real closely for the last few weeks 333 00:14:52,889 --> 00:14:50,040 prior to flight it's not a done deal yet 334 00:14:55,170 --> 00:14:52,899 we're going to have my friends and the 335 00:14:57,150 --> 00:14:55,180 MMT and the IMT discuss it further and 336 00:14:59,220 --> 00:14:57,160 I've asked them to give us ops guys the 337 00:15:02,400 --> 00:14:59,230 decision no later than flight day six if 338 00:15:03,869 --> 00:15:02,410 they agree and asked us to go include 339 00:15:05,999 --> 00:15:03,879 that in the flight then we're going to 340 00:15:08,249 --> 00:15:06,009 insert a day and B between flight day 341 00:15:10,379 --> 00:15:08,259 nine and ten so it we would do the 342 00:15:13,290 --> 00:15:10,389 flight the fly around fly about about 343 00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:13,300 flight day on flight day ten and the 344 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:14,079 current schedule 345 00:15:19,499 --> 00:15:17,259 if after him to review and IMM T review 346 00:15:25,499 --> 00:15:19,509 they conclude that we ought to go do 347 00:15:28,590 --> 00:15:25,509 that right right behind her Denise chat 348 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:28,600 space comm question for Leroy I know you 349 00:15:32,179 --> 00:15:30,130 said that the preliminary results show 350 00:15:35,249 --> 00:15:32,189 that the phone loss is not an issue but 351 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:35,259 because you saw that with et 137 is that 352 00:15:37,949 --> 00:15:36,610 going to change at all the modifications 353 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:37,959 that you're doing for endeavour and 354 00:15:45,809 --> 00:15:42,610 Atlantis is tanks no in all likelihood 355 00:15:47,579 --> 00:15:45,819 it won't I will as we always do reserved 356 00:15:50,189 --> 00:15:47,589 final judgment until until we have 357 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:50,199 thoroughly reviewed all of the data what 358 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:52,410 I've shown you today is preliminary my 359 00:15:56,759 --> 00:15:54,610 assessment of it is also preliminary 360 00:15:59,550 --> 00:15:56,769 what I would tell you that I have pretty 361 00:16:01,829 --> 00:15:59,560 high degree of confidence that we're 362 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:01,839 going to in the end determine that this 363 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:06,130 was a crowd pumping event one that that 364 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:08,230 we know that we're susceptible to why 365 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:09,850 don't we know that we have some level of 366 00:16:16,439 --> 00:16:13,149 accepted risk for and one that we know 367 00:16:18,569 --> 00:16:16,449 that in this area of the lh2 flange 368 00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:18,579 we've done an awful lot of work to 369 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:21,519 ensure that we can minimize these kind 370 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:24,370 of cryo and crowd pumping events if you 371 00:16:27,569 --> 00:16:25,600 recall when we were having the 372 00:16:28,930 --> 00:16:27,579 discussions about eighteen 137 the tank 373 00:16:33,010 --> 00:16:28,940 we just flew a model 374 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:33,020 and in flu one of the areas that we that 375 00:16:39,580 --> 00:16:37,130 we emphasized was we were we were quite 376 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:39,590 satisfied that we were able to develop 377 00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:43,370 flight rationale for the LH to the 378 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:46,190 stringer ends on the LH to flange end of 379 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:48,650 the inner tank because we really didn't 380 00:16:53,290 --> 00:16:51,020 want to have to remove foam and modify 381 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:53,300 those areas of the stringer ends and 382 00:17:01,420 --> 00:16:56,890 part of the reason for that is because 383 00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:01,430 we have some very special processes that 384 00:17:06,250 --> 00:17:03,200 are done at the manufacturing plant 385 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:06,260 where the LH to flange closeout is 386 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:08,330 concerned what the way we put the foam 387 00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:10,910 on the methods and the techniques that 388 00:17:16,540 --> 00:17:13,820 we use for putting that foam on you'll 389 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:16,550 recall that we did a lot of analytical 390 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:18,170 work and a lot of testing in the return 391 00:17:24,940 --> 00:17:22,130 to flight timeframe to to wind up with 392 00:17:27,730 --> 00:17:24,950 the design and the implementation of the 393 00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:27,740 of that LH to flange area that we fly 394 00:17:31,690 --> 00:17:29,840 today and we really didn't want to 395 00:17:35,410 --> 00:17:31,700 disturb that because we know that we 396 00:17:37,660 --> 00:17:35,420 have some susceptibility with with crowd 397 00:17:40,420 --> 00:17:37,670 pumping in that area so I do not 398 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:40,430 anticipate that that what we've seen in 399 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:42,170 terms of performance on this tank would 400 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:43,430 cause us to want to do anything 401 00:17:48,220 --> 00:17:46,370 different in the area of the LH to 402 00:17:52,570 --> 00:17:48,230 flange on the upcoming two tanks that's 403 00:17:55,690 --> 00:17:52,580 preliminary in fact I would say contrary 404 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:55,700 to that I think we'll look at the 405 00:18:00,610 --> 00:17:58,010 performance of this tank once all the 406 00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:00,620 data is in and it will confirm what we 407 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:03,590 think today which is it it was performed 408 00:18:08,830 --> 00:18:06,410 exceptionally and it reinforces the the 409 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:08,840 modifications that we did on the on the 410 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:13,520 locks the elbow tooth flange area and so 411 00:18:17,710 --> 00:18:15,650 I think it'll it'll reinforce the flight 412 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:17,720 rationale that we established to go fly 413 00:18:26,010 --> 00:18:23,430 hi Robert Pearlman with collects paste 414 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:26,020 copper Brian can you just give a preview 415 00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:29,770 tomorrow's docking activities and talk a 416 00:18:35,340 --> 00:18:33,520 little bit about the dragon IDT oh that 417 00:18:37,289 --> 00:18:35,350 will be performed during that as well as 418 00:18:38,669 --> 00:18:37,299 on the subject of visiting vehicles if 419 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:38,679 there's anything different about the 420 00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:40,570 stocking given that you do have HTV and 421 00:18:46,140 --> 00:18:43,600 an ATV already there okay 422 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:46,150 for tomorrow the cruel wakeup like any 423 00:18:49,980 --> 00:18:48,160 other day and we're gonna pick up with 424 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:49,990 our what we call group P power up will 425 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:51,970 power up all the a couple extra 426 00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:53,440 computers and some other components on 427 00:18:57,810 --> 00:18:55,480 the vehicle to get ready to go execute 428 00:18:59,880 --> 00:18:57,820 the docking and then we'll also we have 429 00:19:01,320 --> 00:18:59,890 two big Burns planned and altitude 430 00:19:04,260 --> 00:19:01,330 raising burning then another phasing 431 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:04,270 burn and then followed about a Rev later 432 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:06,340 by the ti burn the terminal initiation 433 00:19:09,330 --> 00:19:08,290 burn for the rendezvous as far as the 434 00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:09,340 rendezvous itself it's a pretty 435 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:10,750 straightforward round a bit like many we 436 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:13,120 have accomplished in the past no special 437 00:19:16,919 --> 00:19:15,370 tasks or things going on for that the 438 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:16,929 vehicles in great shaped crews in great 439 00:19:23,130 --> 00:19:20,470 shape so nothing extra special there the 440 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:23,140 as far as drag and I it's a DTO we have 441 00:19:27,870 --> 00:19:25,450 on board it's a box that sits by the 442 00:19:30,539 --> 00:19:27,880 orbiter docking system out in the 443 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:30,549 payload Bay and the only interface we 444 00:19:32,970 --> 00:19:32,049 have with is a power switch pretty much 445 00:19:35,789 --> 00:19:32,980 we turned it on 446 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,799 prior to the we begin the rendezvous and 447 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:37,360 we turn it off once we get docked and 448 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:40,240 our insight interface with it is limited 449 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:42,160 so hopefully we'll get to see the data 450 00:19:47,549 --> 00:19:45,250 how it performs later as a agency as a 451 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:47,559 spaceflight community but as far as 452 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:48,970 during this flight it's not going to do 453 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:51,610 anything for us we'll just our power it 454 00:19:56,159 --> 00:19:54,730 on and power it off when we get done so 455 00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:56,169 as far as arounded with everything's 456 00:19:59,760 --> 00:19:57,940 nominal and we expect everything to go 457 00:20:02,030 --> 00:19:59,770 just fine and as far as anything 458 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:02,040 different because HTV and ATV are there 459 00:20:05,610 --> 00:20:03,580 no not really 460 00:20:07,710 --> 00:20:05,620 that we we have them in our visuals we 461 00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:07,720 see that they're there and we're gonna 462 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:09,880 fly in we did talk about powering on one 463 00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:11,830 of the cameras on the exposed facility 464 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:14,620 on the Japanese side and they may choose 465 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:16,330 to do that and get some good video of 466 00:20:21,090 --> 00:20:19,450 the orbiter as its approaching we have 467 00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:21,100 said that they can do that if they like 468 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:22,720 and I think they were still 469 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:24,610 contemplating that when I left earlier 470 00:20:32,370 --> 00:20:29,790 Peter spots with the Christian Science 471 00:20:34,050 --> 00:20:32,380 Monitor for mr. Cain I wonder for for 472 00:20:36,150 --> 00:20:34,060 the rookie in the group if you could 473 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:36,160 describe a little bit this does cryo 474 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:38,290 pumping what what causes it what effect 475 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:39,850 it has on the tank that would then lead 476 00:20:45,930 --> 00:20:43,600 to a shedding of foam okay yeah on the 477 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:45,940 the probably the the most basic level 478 00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:49,170 from a physics level understanding the 479 00:20:57,260 --> 00:20:53,350 air pockets in the system that area of 480 00:21:00,750 --> 00:20:57,270 the tank is very cold before we launch 481 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:00,760 the tank is is filled essentially up to 482 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:03,130 nearly the the top where that flange 483 00:21:08,610 --> 00:21:05,290 area is so that whole surrounding area 484 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:08,620 is very cold to include the back face of 485 00:21:13,890 --> 00:21:11,350 the tank structure and the flange and 486 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:13,900 therefore the necessity of the 487 00:21:20,010 --> 00:21:17,770 insulation and the foam as we proceed 488 00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:20,020 through launch and a scent we use up 489 00:21:25,460 --> 00:21:21,940 that fuel at a pretty rapid pace so the 490 00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:25,470 fuel level goes down in the tank and so 491 00:21:31,410 --> 00:21:29,470 therefore that whole area that's vacated 492 00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:31,420 by that fuel tends to warm up and 493 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:33,430 therefore the structure around it warms 494 00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:36,490 up the air warms up and any air pockets 495 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,830 that you have in the system tend to want 496 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:40,720 to escape because now they're they're 497 00:21:45,150 --> 00:21:42,910 warmer when they do that they sometimes 498 00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:45,160 push foam in the direction to include 499 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:46,900 away from the surface of the tank and 500 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:50,050 cause foam at whatever its weakest point 501 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:52,240 is to pop off that's fundamentally 502 00:21:57,420 --> 00:21:55,450 what's happening okay let's go and take 503 00:22:02,640 --> 00:21:57,430 some questions down at the Kennedy Space 504 00:22:04,110 --> 00:22:02,650 Center the launch site in Florida hello 505 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:04,120 this is Marsha Donna The Associated 506 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:06,910 Press Leroy I have a couple foam 507 00:22:12,150 --> 00:22:09,490 questions please the chart that you 508 00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:12,160 showed had impact one two and three and 509 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:14,350 I didn't know if those were three 510 00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:16,810 different pieces of foam potentially 511 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:19,600 hitting at three different locations or 512 00:22:23,780 --> 00:22:21,310 whether that was just you just mentioned 513 00:22:26,730 --> 00:22:23,790 the one impact so that's why I'm unclear 514 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:26,740 okay maybe I'll ask would put the slide 515 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:29,020 back up and and we can talk to it a 516 00:22:36,270 --> 00:22:34,630 little bit it's really it's to answer 517 00:22:38,250 --> 00:22:36,280 your question best Marsha it's really 518 00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:38,260 it's really best to see this in motion 519 00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:39,630 unfortunately and I 520 00:22:43,940 --> 00:22:41,220 don't know if we have the ability to 521 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:43,950 pull that up during this during this 522 00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:47,120 conference we probably don't we only saw 523 00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:51,390 one one area that we think that the foam 524 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:52,740 may have touched the underside of the 525 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:54,510 orbiter and that's in this area just in 526 00:23:00,850 --> 00:22:56,250 front of a bipod in the what I call the 527 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:00,860 arrowhead region the others are our 528 00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:03,810 potential you know it says the impact 529 00:23:09,050 --> 00:23:06,150 there there there's potential impact 530 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:09,060 areas I think there's less certainty in 531 00:23:15,290 --> 00:23:11,640 the other two and because it is very 532 00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:15,300 preliminary I'd probably be what 533 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:16,800 wouldn't be wise to say a whole lot more 534 00:23:22,970 --> 00:23:21,450 about it than that at this point will in 535 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:22,980 the coming days potentially have some 536 00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:25,770 more certainty on that but we have to 537 00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:27,150 put some more time and some more 538 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:28,830 assessment between hours between now and 539 00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:33,290 then but I think the one that we feel 540 00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:35,400 not the least of which reasons is 541 00:23:38,990 --> 00:23:37,080 because it caused the piece of foam to 542 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:39,000 change direction significantly is the 543 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:43,350 first event I think I probably would 544 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:45,330 have chosen to to change these labels 545 00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:48,720 and call it event one two and three but 546 00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:51,120 at any rate I don't know that we have 547 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:53,790 possibly positively ascertained that all 548 00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:56,730 three of those areas that are marked 549 00:24:02,900 --> 00:23:57,900 there were quote-unquote 550 00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:02,910 impact events that helps clear it up 551 00:24:08,660 --> 00:24:06,150 thank you and in any event these three 552 00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:08,670 events would they be different pieces of 553 00:24:16,430 --> 00:24:10,470 foam where those same one just sort of 554 00:24:18,170 --> 00:24:16,440 ricocheting around piece I'm sorry can 555 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:18,180 you repeat we didn't hear that it's the 556 00:24:23,660 --> 00:24:20,010 same piece as it's traveling down the 557 00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:23,670 length of the stack great thank you and 558 00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:25,860 do you have I know yesterday at the 559 00:24:30,530 --> 00:24:27,750 briefing it was said that there were at 560 00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:30,540 least four instances of foam loss is 561 00:24:35,270 --> 00:24:34,080 that still the best number to your to 562 00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:35,280 what you've seen so far 563 00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:37,380 that's correct four is a number that was 564 00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:40,740 mentioned in the MMT today all of them 565 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:45,240 were outside of the of the ast T region 566 00:24:51,770 --> 00:24:48,000 that we of concern for so relatively 567 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:51,780 late events and so as of today it's it's 568 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:52,690 four to 569 00:25:00,260 --> 00:24:57,010 this one that I showed you and when you 570 00:25:02,790 --> 00:25:00,270 say for I'm taking that to me for 571 00:25:05,550 --> 00:25:02,800 detectable pieces of foam that came off 572 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:05,560 or for events with multiple little 573 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:07,510 pieces coming off could you clarify and 574 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:10,570 and what was the biggest size that you 575 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:18,590 okay so for the first part for events 576 00:25:26,250 --> 00:25:21,610 three of which I believe we think the 577 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:26,260 source or the the debris item itself is 578 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:28,330 is you know likelihood foam from the 579 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:30,910 tank I think there's a fourth event that 580 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:32,650 we haven't been able to ascertain the 581 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:34,630 source of it and I'm not sure that it's 582 00:25:39,540 --> 00:25:37,930 tank foam and again all these items will 583 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:39,550 have more on as we go throughout the 584 00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:40,960 course of the mission this is all very 585 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:44,260 preliminary but and then so those are 586 00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,510 separate and and would be we believe 587 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:48,400 I've based what we know today they would 588 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:51,010 be separate events separate sources of 589 00:25:58,770 --> 00:25:54,730 foam if you will I don't have a size a 590 00:26:00,240 --> 00:25:58,780 dimension yet on the largest I think the 591 00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:00,250 largest would be this two hundred thirty 592 00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:02,670 one second event I just don't the guys 593 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:05,590 just haven't given me dimensionally what 594 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:10,030 what size it is yet okay that's all from 595 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:11,770 Florida let's see I've got a couple of 596 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:14,650 folks on the phone bridge first up James 597 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:18,610 Dean with Florida today thank you very 598 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:21,340 much we were just just very quickly 599 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:23,530 following up on what you just said 600 00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:27,850 if debris wasn't foam would that be much 601 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:30,240 more of a concern even if it wasn't 602 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,770 something that would have struck the 603 00:26:38,550 --> 00:26:35,200 shuttle with great velocity I mean what 604 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:38,560 what could it have been otherwise it 605 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,710 could be any number of things it would 606 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:44,080 be pure speculation for me to say at 607 00:26:52,590 --> 00:26:46,930 this point so no not not a concern 608 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:52,600 necessarily at all okay and I just want 609 00:26:59,760 --> 00:26:56,650 to ask you that the section inspection 610 00:27:02,340 --> 00:26:59,770 techniques discovery pioneered after 611 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:02,350 after Columbia and particularly 612 00:27:06,420 --> 00:27:05,130 particularly with the respect to the 613 00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:06,430 backflip that 614 00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:09,160 tomorrow I just wondered if you could 615 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:11,830 talk a little bit about what you've 616 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:14,530 learned from these maneuvers since they 617 00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:15,910 were implemented and how important 618 00:27:25,290 --> 00:27:18,600 they've been to program moving forward 619 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:25,300 over these past six plus years okay sure 620 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:28,770 the as you know the the suite of 621 00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:32,050 techniques and tools and inspection 622 00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:36,430 capability and analytical techniques all 623 00:27:39,810 --> 00:27:38,260 of the work that we've done really in 624 00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:39,820 the return to flight and since return to 625 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:43,150 flight which we continue to evolve all 626 00:27:48,780 --> 00:27:45,130 the way up to including you know this 627 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:48,790 mission have been very very important to 628 00:27:53,610 --> 00:27:51,570 us in terms of continuing to learn and 629 00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:53,620 understand the performance of this 630 00:28:01,320 --> 00:27:57,310 vehicle so obviously we the first few 631 00:28:02,790 --> 00:28:01,330 times we did some of those those new 632 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:02,800 procedures the first few times we 633 00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:04,480 implemented some of those return to 634 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:08,320 flight techniques to get inspection data 635 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:11,050 we our learning curve was was pretty 636 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:13,150 steep and we learned a lot about the 637 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:15,670 performance of the vehicle along the way 638 00:28:20,010 --> 00:28:17,860 as we continue to implement changes to 639 00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:20,020 the tank and we continue to to tweak the 640 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:25,320 system with our with our goal of having 641 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,320 minimising the amount of debris the 642 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:30,880 amount of foam coming off the tank if 643 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:35,290 you will the the procedures and the 644 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:38,890 techniques have been as important all 645 00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:41,530 the way along because in some cases they 646 00:28:47,790 --> 00:28:44,760 were used to verify that we did in fact 647 00:28:52,020 --> 00:28:47,800 solve a problem or help mitigate a 648 00:28:55,220 --> 00:28:52,030 problem by some modification that we did 649 00:28:57,150 --> 00:28:55,230 to a foam application technique or 650 00:29:00,120 --> 00:28:57,160 something more significant than that 651 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:00,130 that we did on the tank to remove some 652 00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:01,930 of the foam ramps and some of the larger 653 00:29:06,170 --> 00:29:04,360 modifications that we did so those 654 00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:06,180 things were not only important for 655 00:29:10,050 --> 00:29:08,560 determining the health of the vehicle 656 00:29:12,390 --> 00:29:10,060 once we got in orbit which was hugely 657 00:29:14,850 --> 00:29:12,400 important to us of course but they were 658 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:14,860 also important as it relates to moving 659 00:29:18,260 --> 00:29:16,350 forward in being 660 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:18,270 being in a continuous learning 661 00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:22,710 environment so they they substantiate 662 00:29:27,770 --> 00:29:24,360 some of the things we did along the way 663 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:27,780 in addition to for that very mission 664 00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:30,870 where we did that inspection they they 665 00:29:35,090 --> 00:29:32,550 gave us the ability to move forward 666 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:35,100 knowing that we had a vehicle that was 667 00:29:41,660 --> 00:29:37,710 safe to continue the mission and and to 668 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:41,670 return for a deorbit and entry and so I 669 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:44,010 would tell you it'd be very difficult to 670 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:48,630 go back and more than a year or two and 671 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:50,730 find missions in that succession going 672 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:51,930 all the way back to return to flight 673 00:29:59,450 --> 00:29:54,890 where we haven't continued to learn 674 00:30:03,200 --> 00:29:59,460 because of the because of the return to 675 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:03,210 flight inspection and analytical 676 00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:05,970 techniques that we put in place so it's 677 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:08,990 been very very important to us and and 678 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:11,070 allowed us really to move forward with 679 00:30:19,580 --> 00:30:12,810 our eyes open and to continue to evolve 680 00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:19,590 and improve the system just wonder if 681 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:23,910 you you and or Brian you know remember 682 00:30:28,910 --> 00:30:26,310 the first backflip and could share any 683 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:28,920 thoughts of seeing that unfold and and 684 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:31,530 if that'll be on your mind as you're 685 00:30:39,890 --> 00:30:38,250 watching it tomorrow good from my 686 00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:39,900 perspective I'll be sitting on console 687 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,240 of course watching the crew execute this 688 00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:45,600 activity I was on the space station side 689 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:48,750 for sts-114 as a flight director when 690 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,290 this was being executed and I can't say 691 00:30:56,030 --> 00:30:53,760 all think too much about that it was a 692 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:56,040 it was an interesting time obviously but 693 00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:57,930 right now I'm pretty well focused on the 694 00:31:01,370 --> 00:30:59,820 activity at hand and ensuring that the 695 00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:01,380 crew gets through this one safely and we 696 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:03,150 get rendezvous and dock safely and 697 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:06,210 everything goes well like Leroy did said 698 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:08,550 we do have learned a great deal in the 699 00:31:13,130 --> 00:31:11,280 past couple a few years on how to how to 700 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:13,140 fly this vehicle and how this vehicle 701 00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:14,910 behaves and how to analyze the data on 702 00:31:18,170 --> 00:31:16,470 the ground all emphasize what he said 703 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:18,180 I've gone to a bunch of the mission 704 00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:20,310 management team meetings where we have 705 00:31:24,530 --> 00:31:22,980 discussed these are the the inspection 706 00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:24,540 techniques we have in the analysis 707 00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:26,940 techniques we have and it's it's pretty 708 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:28,860 astonishing actually what how far that 709 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:29,910 team has come and how 710 00:31:34,970 --> 00:31:32,010 they are at doing what they do and I am 711 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:34,980 impressed and amazed each time we get 712 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:36,510 something for them to look at I'm glad 713 00:31:39,650 --> 00:31:38,010 when we don't have something for them to 714 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:39,660 look at but when they do look at things 715 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:41,970 they do something so in such a thorough 716 00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:44,490 and rigorous manner that it is a it is 717 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:46,710 very impressive so we will do the 718 00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:48,330 rendezvous pitch maneuver tomorrow and 719 00:31:52,790 --> 00:31:50,100 everything is going to go well I expect 720 00:32:01,630 --> 00:31:52,800 and we got the teams backing us up and 721 00:32:08,590 --> 00:32:04,400 am thanks very much I just had a quick 722 00:32:12,410 --> 00:32:08,600 question about the Soyuz photo 723 00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:12,420 rendezvous if that's approved the flight 724 00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:14,870 d9 scheduled lost when I saw has the 725 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:17,190 hatches being closed at the end of that 726 00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:19,890 day and I'm assuming that you'd postpone 727 00:32:24,890 --> 00:32:22,440 that is that right yeah that's a good 728 00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:24,900 assumption if if we insert this extra 729 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:27,780 day to go do this activity plus we would 730 00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:29,840 use the additional time to do additional 731 00:32:35,150 --> 00:32:32,460 outfitting of the PMM and also some 732 00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:35,160 stowage in the HTV we had that idea in 733 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:36,870 our minds going into this mission we may 734 00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:39,450 need extra time want to use extra time 735 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:41,070 for those activities if everything else 736 00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:43,290 is going well in addition on that extra 737 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:45,390 day on flight day 10 so on flight day 738 00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:47,100 nine right we would not close the hatch 739 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:49,110 we would insert flight day 10 and that 740 00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:51,330 would essentially they do the fly about 741 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:54,390 in the morning get read acht we'd go do 742 00:32:57,860 --> 00:32:56,250 all those other wrestler folks on board 743 00:32:59,690 --> 00:32:57,870 would be doing those other activities 744 00:33:01,370 --> 00:32:59,700 during this time period and then we'd 745 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:01,380 close the hatch the night of flight day 746 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:04,110 10 and then we done doctor morning a 747 00:33:08,770 --> 00:33:05,850 flight day 11 and continue with the rest 748 00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:08,780 of the mission okay thanks very much 749 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:11,220 thanks Irene okay we're back here for 750 00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:12,810 any wrap-up Peter you have anything well 751 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:15,390 Jeremias on your side okay anybody over 752 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:18,390 here other than mark yes well let mark 753 00:33:27,970 --> 00:33:24,770 thanks mark Croatian weak and I believe 754 00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:27,980 is for Leroy one one would the MMT 755 00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:32,460 ideally kind of like to clear the TPS 756 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:35,870 for the for the mission based on the 757 00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:38,070 imagery that you get from all the 758 00:33:44,390 --> 00:33:42,600 different sources it'll be in all 759 00:33:46,930 --> 00:33:44,400 likelihood in the Sunday timeframe I 760 00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:46,940 think the way the timeline lays out mark 761 00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:50,580 will get a great bit of our data 762 00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:53,820 tomorrow of course as the as discovery 763 00:33:57,740 --> 00:33:55,260 approaches the station we'll get a lot 764 00:34:01,520 --> 00:33:57,750 of photography we'll get all those 765 00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:01,530 images down linked the crew will will 766 00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:04,140 analyze all that data I believe you've 767 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:05,340 heard us talk about our focused 768 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:09,330 inspection meeting the the debris 769 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:11,850 assessment team and and the orbiter 770 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,450 experts they have that I think at least 771 00:34:21,350 --> 00:34:17,280 as of today they have that set for about 772 00:34:24,169 --> 00:34:21,360 nine o'clock tomorrow night Saturday 773 00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:24,179 evening so they'll they'll we expect to 774 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:26,280 have the lion's share of the data in 775 00:34:32,930 --> 00:34:29,850 hand at least to to the point where they 776 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:32,940 can make a recommendation as to whether 777 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:34,770 or not there's an area that will require 778 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:36,510 some more detail or some focused 779 00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:39,450 inspection as or and so that 780 00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:41,639 recommendation will come to the MMT as 781 00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:45,300 early as you know Sunday morning Sunday 782 00:34:53,090 --> 00:34:49,139 afternoon and subsequent to that things 783 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:53,100 begin to happen pretty rapidly the the 784 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:54,810 remainder of the data comes in pretty 785 00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:57,690 quickly and then the way it gets 786 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:00,960 analyzed and it gets Qaid and it gets 787 00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:04,380 peer reviewed it'll be in that Sunday 788 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:06,840 probably not later than Monday timeframe 789 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:10,650 I think as it relates to the the Soyuz 790 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:13,830 fly around that we're talking about I'm 791 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:15,180 going to want to have a pretty good 792 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:16,290 understanding of the health of the 793 00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:19,920 vehicle before we commit to doing that 794 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:22,520 from a shuttle standpoint simply because 795 00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:26,970 selfishly that that plus one day we have 796 00:35:29,060 --> 00:35:28,230 a lot of different ways we could use 797 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,070 that 798 00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:31,680 and obviously if there were some thing 799 00:35:34,940 --> 00:35:33,300 that we wanted to look more closely at 800 00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:34,950 we might need to use up part of that 801 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:36,990 plus one for a focused inspection kind 802 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:40,770 of opportunity so I don't anticipate 803 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,900 that when I look at the performance 804 00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:44,640 going uphill when I look at 805 00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:48,420 preliminarily how discovery looks in 806 00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:50,820 orbit and and the performance of the 807 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:52,920 external tank I absolutely don't expect 808 00:35:57,230 --> 00:35:55,290 that to be any issue but in any case 809 00:35:59,570 --> 00:35:57,240 we'll go through our normal process and 810 00:36:02,410 --> 00:35:59,580 I expect that to wrap up in the in the 811 00:36:07,490 --> 00:36:02,420 Sunday Monday timeframe and and then 812 00:36:11,090 --> 00:36:07,500 we'll we'll make a decision and on 813 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:11,100 Monday you know likelihood with about 814 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:14,190 the Soyuz fly around in the MMT 815 00:36:20,690 --> 00:36:18,540 and then as an mm TI mm t integrated 816 00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:20,700 team we'll make a final decision on on 817 00:36:25,580 --> 00:36:24,030 Tuesday morning is the way the timetable 818 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:25,590 lays out now now that that assumes 819 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:26,970 everything that we have planned in the 820 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:29,910 next 48 hours goes just as brian has it 821 00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:34,050 laid out and and if it does then then 822 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:38,460 that's kind of what you can expect okay 823 00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:41,010 well that'll wrap up the questions a 824 00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:43,230 couple of programming notes for you 825 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:45,180 obviously the crew goes to bed a little 826 00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:48,000 before 10:00 tonight central time will 827 00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:49,380 begin showing the flight day two 828 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:52,080 highlights at 10 o'clock and on the hour 829 00:36:56,570 --> 00:36:54,060 through the crew sleep period which ends 830 00:37:01,010 --> 00:36:56,580 with a wake-up call Saturday morning at 831 00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:01,020 5:50 3:00 a.m. central the are bar pitch 832 00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:04,830 maneuver that Brian described begins 833 00:37:10,580 --> 00:37:08,310 just after noon tomorrow and docking to 834 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:10,590 the station is scheduled for about 1:15 835 00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:13,050 so look for that hatches are open just 836 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:15,030 after 3:00 and then the mmm team meets 837 00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:17,010 beginning at 1:00 again tomorrow and 838 00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:19,230 we'll be back here for another status 839 00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:22,020 briefing with you at 3:30 central look 840 00:37:26,090 --> 00:37:23,880 for all of that on the NASA TV schedule 841 00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:26,100 we it's a living document we update it 842 00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:28,260 frequently so make sure you follow it 843 00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:30,420 out there on the web when you get a 844 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:31,020 chance 845 00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:33,090 so with that well thank everybody for